Macrominer Mastercard Moment

So you ganked a few miners and stole some ore. Personally i think that makes you a thug and nothing else. Also the racism against the chinese was VERY uncalled for.

P.S.
I'm pretty sure the chiese have there own eve cluster, so chacnes are they werent even chinese.

he was saying fuck your mother's pussy' in chinese so i figure he was chinese. However, i don't see what there is that is to make fun of out of someone just being chinese. Other than that, sounds like it was a good time.

I thought racist abuse was banned by the Eve EULA.

I think that statement by you looked like a blatenly racist statement.

I also believe that this statements publication should not have made it through eve-pirates quality control.

Sorry guys just have to cry foul when I see it.

Cant comment on what the guy was saying back as I dont speak cantonese or mandarin. :)

Just my 0.02 isk worth.

Ri ni ma = Fuck you.

And I think that you can't blame him. I know a few chinese guys in-game, and most of them are sweatshop miners, but do not macro otherwise. (Can't speak for all of them, of course) Your post is blatantly racist, and totally uncalled for.

I do not mind pirating, I do it myself. But killing someone 3 times in a row is what I'd call grieving.

That eve-pirate pirate allowed this racist piece of shit to be posted is sad.

My 2 cents

*SIGH!*

yet another witch hunt against someone who blatantly wasn't a macro miner with some completely uncalled for abuse, and a complete lack of finese thrown in.
i read this website to see the wonderfully clever things pirates do to get their mark, or to see how people with very little skill points can go out and bag some good kills. this guy has shown neither.
war deccing noobs, hunting down their members and then racially abusing them is nothing to be proud of tbh

Biz, they're Chinese. Most of them started before Eve-China went online. There's certainly a fair share of them who mine to make RL money off it (It's very profitable in China, if you consider that a normal street vendor makes about 100 US dollars a year), but there are also those *gasp* who actually play for fun.

So I think the OP stating that all chinese macro mine, and are cowards and liars, is an extremely shallow generalization. It's racist, and he's lucky the Chinese guy hasn't petitioned it. I would've.

And a question to the OP: Where was the profit when you ganked his shuttle? I'm sure it was very rewarding.

You guys are making way too much out of this.

Those comments are not even close to being racist. If you think that, then you may be overly sensitive.

It's more like trash talk and goofing. If you don't see it that way, then oh well, not much I can do. Feel free to keep posting that I am a racist and petiton in game a few million times. He makes unprovoked rude comments to me all the time, you don't see me crying foul.

Him and his friends start in the second they see me in the zone. I don't initiate any convos with them, they do so to me. And all of them say pretty bad things I am sure because I see that ra ni ma comment a lot and sometimes they use a translator and put in stuff like "sex mom time" and other odd comments in broken English.

Why do you think he's not a macro miner? Because he curses at me? I see this guy with different groups of people with names like Zhong1, Zhong2, Zhong3, and all characters are created within minutes of each other. They sit in high sec space and mine for 24 hours straight all in seperate belts. He's a sweatshop farmer plain and simple.

Killing someone 3 times is not griefing. If you think that they pray your corp doesn't get war dec'd because you won't get shown any mercy by the opposing corp I can assure you. The whole point of war is to kill people whenever you see them, not kill them as long as they are in a ship that will give you a profit if you blow it up.

War is not always fair. If you think that then be prepared to cry some more if you ever engage in one in this game.

1. Trashtalk and goofing crosses the line when it comes to someone's race and ethnicity in general.

2. Did they start trashtalking to you before or AFTER you started killing them? If they did before you did anything, then yes, war deccing and killing them would be justified. Somehow I doubt that, tho.

3. So now he's a sweatshop farmer? Your original post stated he was a macro miner. I thought the only reason you wardecced them was because they're macro miners. And fyi, sweatshop farmer != macro mining.
Btw, should've been obvious that there're no scripts running as soon as they undocked to stop you attacking them.

4. Yes, in a war everything goes. However, there's a reason as to why wars are being waged. What was yours? See 3, the macro miner excuse doesn't work anymore. As you yourself admit you think he's a sweatshop farmer. And like I said, there are actually chinese guys who play this game for fun. (Gee, you'd think!) Following your reasoning then, anyone mining in a group is a sweatshop farmer/macro miner. Let's go gank everyone in High-Sec!

So what's your excuse again for spouting racist remarks and griefing someone?

To clarify, because it might be unclear. I am not against attacking miners or endorsing sweatshop farming in any way. However, the OP saw that these guys were Chinese, decided that they therefore must be macrominers, wardecced them (a corp of 3 noobs), and proceeded to pod someone 3 times in a row while spouting racist remarks, even after it was clear that they were not macroing in any way. After having griefed them enough to force them into a noob corp, he proceeds to write a lengthy post about this, which is quite sad actually.

/rant off

*2. Did they start trashtalking to you before or AFTER you started killing them? If they did before you did anything, then yes, war deccing and killing them would be justified. Somehow I doubt that, tho.*

It started way before, many months ago. I've seen SZAAD and his crew in the Tash area for some time. Macroing/pharming/sweatshopping players the bunch of them. I don't assume that fact because they are Chinese. I know that fact because I've seen them at work. It's a fact that has nothing to do with their race.

*3. So now he's a sweatshop farmer? Your original post stated he was a macro miner. I thought the only reason you wardecced them was because they're macro miners. And fyi, sweatshop farmer != macro mining.
Btw, should've been obvious that there're no scripts running as soon as they undocked to stop you attacking them.*

Here it seems you're getting into semantics. He is part of a very large group of accounts. They all have odd names like ZJHASDGE or Zhong1, Zhong2, Zhong3 and such, groups of them are created within minutes of each other and such. Just because they stop running a script for a bit doesn't mean they are no longer macrominers/isk pharmers.

*4. Yes, in a war everything goes. However, there's a reason as to why wars are being waged. What was yours? See 3, the macro miner excuse doesn't work anymore. As you yourself admit you think he's a sweatshop farmer. And like I said, there are actually chinese guys who play this game for fun. (Gee, you'd think!) Following your reasoning then, anyone mining in a group is a sweatshop farmer/macro miner. Let's go gank everyone in High-Sec!*

You make some pretty bold assumptions with that statement. All I said was he's a macroer/pharmer/whatver you want to call them, he joined a player corp so I war dec'd him and killed him a few times. I never said all Chinese are macroers and pharmers and all should be killed. This guy is a pharmer and part of a huge macroer crew, he was in a player corp, and I war dec'd them to disrupt their crew's operations and have some fun killing him.

*However, the OP saw that these guys were Chinese, decided that they therefore must be macrominers, wardecced them (a corp of 3 noobs)*

Again it had nothing to do with their race or that they are noobs. They are all as old or older than me and they outnumber me. I didn't assume anything because of their race. They just happen to be Chinese macro/pharmer and he just happened to be in player corp so I war dec'd him and had some fun.

Let's not discuss this on the forum. We can convo in-game if ya want. Just drop a line here.

Cheers

They probably were macrominers or whatnot, so good on you for having an enjoyable (and profitable) time. And trash talk them all you want, because they were cursing you out.

But racist remarks? Where's the fun in that? (To quote Jayne.) Call them wussies or stupid or n00bs- but calling all Chinese cowards and liars?

I'm Chinese, and I can take a joke or two... but the things you said, though I understand the context, really pissed me off. Do it in your own time, but don't parade that crap out on eve-pirate.

I read this site to laugh at the antics of carebears like me, and at the cleverness of some pirates. I don't read this site to be insulted.

*Also make fun of the fact that they are Chinese.*

I think this statement says it all. I don't know whether I am more disappointed about the fact that you made the statement or that you have attempted to defend it...

You sir, are an idiot. It's not griefing to multi-kill - war decs and fights over much less are commonplace and encouraged in eve.

I loved the story...keep doing and posting them. I laughed my ass off the whole time.

If SZAAD wanted to avoid him..he could have. SZAAD was baiting him and asking to be killed. Good story.

I wouldn´t call all Chinese ppl liars and cheaters but the fact is that they are making money selling ISK on Ebay and a ton of other crap ... from CD´s and DVD´s to fake vintage guitars. The internet conections to china should be cut off until they take action against those who make money on scams.