Wars, 7 vs 2 firefight, Alliance thievery and more!

One was Peregrin Avionics and another was The Draconian Legacy. Each with 20-30 players or so. Both corps were based close together out in Domain so that was convenient for us. So we do the usual, gather intel, do locates, etc, etc. We build up our war roster and get ready for action. But before I can get started I get convoed by a former war target, Brute Fighter. I really don't understand why people even bother asking, but this guy begs me for ISK to help replace his implants. I was feeling generous this day and paid what I thought he was really worth. The day before the wars go into effect I decide to do some intel as I browse the belts to defile ore cans and see what happens. I see some guy in his own little corp mining away feverishly. I proceed to flip his can and wait. Much to my surprise he comes back in a Cyclone. I always enjoy fighting battlecruisers because 9 times out of 10 the pilot is flying one not because they are skilled at it but because they think cruiser pilots will be afraid of it, they're too cheap to buy a BS and they're too afraid to fly a cruiser for fear of getting blown up. Once again, I find myself in my ore thieving/scout Thorax filled with stabs galore. It makes for a shitty tank but I can always bug out if desired. The battle begins.... I am not sure what this guy was thinking but it was a pretty crappy setup. He had a bunch of smart bombs fitted thinking he would pop all my drones and leave me defenseless but my elite ore thieving ship of doom proved too much for his bigger and better battlecruiser and he didn't even dent my armor at all...... A few belts later I stumble upon a mining op by Peregrin players. There's a few cans but no players around. So I swap the ore to my can and wait. 10 mins goes by and nothing. So I head to the station housing their HQ. None of them are there. I fly back to the belt in time to see one of their haulers taking the ore I stole. So I pop his hauler.... ....and head back to their HQ. A few minutes later he undocks in a Moa, but promptly redocks upon seeing me. So I sit and wait. He finally undocks and engages. Mind you I am in my ore thieving Rax still so not exactly set up for PVP, more set up to get aggro, warp out and come back in PVP fitted ship. I engage immediately. The pilot fights to the end and loses. I offer "GF!" as I always do after a good fight. Now at this point I've stirred up a hornet's nest. Several Peregrin guys start entering the system and several Draconian guys also are there. They all undock and orbit me. Mind you, the wars with them haven't even started yet and my timer was out so it's not like they could do anything to me. Notice the local chat with Firestarter55 asking what's going on? Keep an eye on him for later. :) While they are intent on orbiting me endlessly, I decide to check on the can I swapped earlier. Sure enough just as I warp in the belt, I see a red flashing Bestower belonging to Firestarter55. I almost pop him at the station but he had an insta that barely got him docked in time. So I fly back to the belt to see if he tries to pick up the rest of the ore. I wait and wait and wait and wait. I decide to warp back to the station and as I do, in warps Firestarter55 with his Apoc. I ask him in local to please stay there that I am warping back to fight him in my Thorax. This should be an easy win for him, right? Doubtful but we will never really know because he ran and hid. Meanwhile, while I am looking for him, the other corps I am war dec'ing start preaching in local that they will unite and kill my corp much like the world did to the Germans in WWII. Meanwhile Firestarter is claiming his aggro timer on me is out, which is crap because I aggroed him and my timer still had 10+ minutes.... [ 2006.11.19 18:34:21 ] Fire Starter55 > the agro was up [ 2006.11.19 18:34:25 ] Fire Starter55 > he took to long [ 2006.11.19 18:34:26 ] Nexa Necis > its not up [ 2006.11.19 18:34:32 ] Fire Starter55 > up for me [ 2006.11.19 18:34:33 ] Nexa Necis > its 15 min timer [ 2006.11.19 18:34:35 ] Nexa Necis > not for me [ 2006.11.19 18:34:42 ] Nexa Necis > so it shouldnt be for you either [ 2006.11.19 18:34:46 ] Nexa Necis > nice trying to lie [ 2006.11.19 18:34:54 ] Fire Starter55 > then u would have first shot and that wouldn't be smart on my part now would it [ 2006.11.19 18:34:54 ] Nexa Necis > bring it out, i got just over 7mins left [ 2006.11.19 18:35:08 ] Nexa Necis > your apoc vs my throax [ 2006.11.19 18:35:24 ] Nexa Necis > either way im popping it. the war vote is in for your corp as well [ 2006.11.19 18:35:36 ] Nexa Necis > where you at? il fly over [ 2006.11.19 18:35:56 ] Tyr Vaantau > Nexa, remember what happened to Germany in WWI? [ 2006.11.19 18:36:05 ] Tyr Vaantau > and WWII for that matter? After about 20 minutes of Peregrin's posturing, one of Peregrin's senior officers convos me. He is quite rational, respectful and quite aware, "it's only a game". So he is a pleasure to speak to compared to some of the raving lunatics I usually get. Intermission......here I am popping some poor guys Impairor.... On with the show.... We agree on a surrender fee. He offers an additional 15% on top of my original request because I am treating him with respect as well. I receive their ISK and promptly end the war, even though technically it didn't start yet. :) He goes on to tell me he's received many inquiries from other corps wanting to war dec me. I ask him to tell those corps to please do so since CCP limits me to only 3 wars at one time that I can personally declare. I decided to end the war against The Unrefined because they were joining Peregrin and Draconian, and since Peregrin surrendered and a new war against Draconian was due any minute, I needed a open spot to dec Omni-Death corp. The next day I see his CEO in local and convo him. He basically says, he don't give a shit about the corp or any of it's members and that he knows Firestarter is a retard and would eventually bring them trouble someday but he doesn't really care. [ 2006.11.20 04:18:48 ] Nexa Necis > the war starts in 2 days. i had to cancel one were in early to fit you guys in [ 2006.11.20 04:19:08 ] Tsotha lanti > for? [ 2006.11.20 04:19:23 ] Nexa Necis > well i sent you an email. dunno why you didnt read it [ 2006.11.20 04:19:30 ] Tsotha lanti > hmm [ 2006.11.20 04:19:32 ] Tsotha lanti > let me check [ 2006.11.20 04:20:16 ] Nexa Necis > thought your corpmate would've advised you already [ 2006.11.20 04:20:29 ] Tsotha lanti > i just read it [ 2006.11.20 04:20:42 ] Nexa Necis > yay :) [ 2006.11.20 04:20:57 ] Tsotha lanti > your logic is somewhat sparse but if you feel like spending the money [ 2006.11.20 04:21:34 ] Tsotha lanti > do not actually expect to be enganged by us [ 2006.11.20 04:21:52 ] Tsotha lanti > if my people want to get together to fight you off, that is their call I figured I would send him an email to see if some renumeration could be worked out for the items that his corpmate had stolen from my corp. As usual, they seem to think that if they tell me my rationale behind the war is foolish I will suddenly come to my senses and agree with them. This guy is quite....different....to say the least. Why he wants to even bother being a CEO when he has a poor attitude about it makes no sense to me.... [ 2006.11.20 04:21:55 ] Nexa Necis > how is it sparse? your corpmate looted what was ours. quite valuable loot actually. so since he took it and i havent been repaid, we declare war until your corp is gone or you pay [ 2006.11.20 04:21:59 ] Tsotha lanti > i doubt i will have tiem for you [ 2006.11.20 04:22:18 ] Nexa Necis > good to see you're a tight knit outfit :) [ 2006.11.20 04:22:19 ] Tsotha lanti > well, i have been told nothing of anything he took, so you would have to collect from him [ 2006.11.20 04:22:28 ] Tsotha lanti > we arent at all [ 2006.11.20 04:22:35 ] Nexa Necis > thats the fun of being in a corp. all for one and one for all [ 2006.11.20 04:22:37 ] Tsotha lanti > i dont think there is usually more than one of us to a region [ 2006.11.20 04:23:03 ] Tsotha lanti > but i am well aware fire starter likes to live up to his name [ 2006.11.20 04:23:09 ] Nexa Necis > one target is all you need in a fight though [ 2006.11.20 04:23:10 ] Tsotha lanti > i have told him such things are his problem [ 2006.11.20 04:23:24 ] Tsotha lanti > if you are going to collect on his ass for starting shit he cant back up be my guest [ 2006.11.20 04:23:32 ] Tsotha lanti > i advised him that would be my stance some time ago [ 2006.11.20 04:23:48 ] Nexa Necis > well we will be attacking all of your corp though, not just him [ 2006.11.20 04:24:20 ] Tsotha lanti > i am certain that is how it works [ 2006.11.20 04:24:25 ] Nexa Necis > k [ 2006.11.20 04:24:39 ] Tsotha lanti > just dont expect us to lay up waiting for you to bring it [ 2006.11.20 04:24:46 ] Tsotha lanti > i am really busy right now [ 2006.11.20 04:25:20 ] Nexa Necis > i dont. he gave s a fair bit of intel on members and such. and we have lots of locator agents to trackpeople down with. [ 2006.11.20 04:26:00 ] Tsotha lanti > we dont exactly have alot of secrets [ 2006.11.20 04:26:05 ] Nexa Necis > hehe [ 2006.11.20 04:26:23 ] Nexa Necis > well i know you wont be running out to fight so we will bring it to you that i can tell [ 2006.11.20 04:29:09 ] Nexa Necis > well good luck in the upcoming war. hope to see you soon :) [ 2006.11.20 04:29:09 ] Tsotha lanti > i have long expected a war from fire starter [ 2006.11.20 04:29:18 ] Tsotha lanti > i will be around [ 2006.11.20 04:29:36 ] Nexa Necis > k later I've noticed a lot of CEO's of corps I dec always have the same excuses about warring and also try using the same logic on me to persuade me not to fight them. This guy is negligent in his duties as CEO, basically letting his corp pay for one persons actions with no regard for anyone at all. What's even more wacked is he doesn't even kick Firestarter out of the corp, which is a good thing as you will see. :) Quick lesson on war dec reasoning with crazy people...... Here are my favorite excuses I've heard of why I shouldn't bother war decing their corps along with my usual responses.... We are a n00b corp.---Half your members are in BS's so you're a rich n00b corp We like mining, not fighting----We like fighting, not mining Why don't you go into 0.0 and kill people, it's more profitable---Why don't you go to 0.0 and mine, it's more profitable Why do you have to kill us? We just want to be left alone---Why don't you find a single player game then? Dude, my alt is gonna so fuckin PWN j00 when his corp/alliance war decs you!---Great, whats the name of the corp/alliance and I will put in our vote to dec it now to save you the trouble Of course I also hear "You can hurt us", "We will hide from you", "We will perma-dock until you get bored". None of those threats or tactics work either. All of us have one or more alts so we are basically an alt-tab away from enjoying Eve on those characters as well as station camping people all day long. Another quick funny....remember the guy in the Cyclone I popped? Looks like he popped right into an allianced corp once he saw all the chit chat about war in local. Got to love them alliances, the great savior of the weak and those who cant be bothered with anything. So the next day all 3 wars are in effect, Draconian Legacy, Omni-Death Corp, and the one against Admiral Denzark from my last story. My corpmate and I are out looking for war targets. We've seen them flitting about the system. I am in my ore thieving Thorax and he is in a Arbitrator. We have a few targets camped at 2 different stations. He tells me 2 frigs are about to engage him. Then he panics because a BS warped in and locked him. I was thinking, "Yes! I get to kill Firestarter's Apoc now!" but he said it was someone named Grimzag Sharkey. I laugh at him and point out we aren't war with him. I warp over to him anyways to see what's up. As I warp in he says the Raven popped. I am like, WTF is going on? [ 2006.11.22 03:46:39 ] GrimZag Sharkey > hehe grimzag hit wrong button.. lol [ 2006.11.22 03:46:57 ] Kezrok Grimm > I killed a drone! [ 2006.11.22 03:46:59 ] Kezrok Grimm > /emote cheers [ 2006.11.22 03:47:07 ] Cpt Omage5 > XD So I figure he is just another moron who likes to lock people when they fight so he can see their health status and see who's winning. We continue on hunting targets. All of a sudden, 7 of them warp to the station my corpmate was waiting at. He spots a Armageddon, Caracal, and 5 various frigs. I quickly go and grab my Domi. He tells me they are all right outside the station camping him. No worries. I like a challenge. 7 vs 2 it is. They've got me sensor damped, tracking disrupted, and surrounded by missle fire and drones. It was pretty to see all the colors and flashy things. I notice Grimzag is back in his new Raven....stay tuned for more on this nutter..... Grimzag is definitely up to something........ I got 5 of the killmails my corpmate got the other 2........ Notice after the battle the whining commences in local. They refuse to pay a surrender fee as they claim to be poor old miners and mission runners. However, in the days prior whilst we were running intel, we spotted them in BS's, Succubus, and Ferox's. Go figure, somehow the loss of their frigs emptied their wallets. Interesting! Now I go to loot the cans and Grimzag takes them. I ask him what's going on. First he fires "accidentally" at my corpmate when we are hunting war targets, now he is taking the spoils of war from under me. I will add a screenshot of him, but Eve is down and I cannot remember which Alliance he is in. So I convo him to sort it out.... [ 2006.11.22 05:01:24 ] Nexa Necis > grimzag thats not good that youre interfeering [ 2006.11.22 05:01:36 ] GrimZag Sharkey > I'm getting my friends stuff [ 2006.11.22 05:01:48 ] GrimZag Sharkey > sitting here a problem? [ 2006.11.22 05:01:50 ] Nexa Necis > ill be letter your ceo know youre interfering with war stuff twice [ 2006.11.22 05:02:07 ] Nexa Necis > as well as your alliance [ 2006.11.22 05:02:07 ] GrimZag Sharkey > right. already a step ahead of you [ 2006.11.22 05:02:29 ] Fire Starter55 > his ceo is head of the allience [ 2006.11.22 05:03:01 ] GrimZag Sharkey > He grabbed my stuff earlier, only right to return the favor. Not like you need it anyways [ 2006.11.22 05:03:12 ] Nexa Necis > uh you fired at him, he had every right to grab it He is claiming since my corpmate took his t2 gear when he got Concordokkened!!, that he is rightfully allowed to steal from us. I will post his killmail as well as I got him to send it to me. :) [ 2006.11.22 05:03:54 ] Nexa Necis > its the spoils of war and the principle of it [ 2006.11.22 05:03:59 ] Nexa Necis > which most allainces respect [ 2006.11.22 05:04:05 ] Fire Starter55 > right... [ 2006.11.22 05:04:29 ] Nexa Necis > allainces rely heavy on relatins and politics [ 2006.11.22 05:04:35 ] Nexa Necis > relations* This guy obviously has no clue what he is doing or how most alliances seem to work. He actually claims he never fired at my corpmate earlier he only locked. So not only is he a thief and interloper but he is also a liar since we all know Concord doesn't come out to play unless shots are fired or mods activated...."****" is my corpmate speaking.... [ 2006.11.22 05:07:38 ] Nexa Necis > hes fire starters buddy [ 2006.11.22 05:07:47 ] Fire Starter55 > his finger slipped [ 2006.11.22 05:07:56 ] Fire Starter55 > he didn't mean to at that moment [ 2006.11.22 05:07:58 ] GrimZag Sharkey > I didn't actually fire on you either [ 2006.11.22 05:08:03 ] GrimZag Sharkey > I locked [ 2006.11.22 05:08:07 ] Cpt Omage5 > lol [ 2006.11.22 05:08:10 ] ****** > well, why did concord pop you? [ 2006.11.22 05:08:17 ] Nexa Necis > you dont get concorded for locking :) [ 2006.11.22 05:08:19 ] Cpt Omage5 > his [ 2006.11.22 05:08:20 ] Cpt Omage5 > finger [ 2006.11.22 05:08:22 ] Cpt Omage5 > slipped So his friends have to help explain his actions, he can't just admit all the crap he just tried to pull. We offer "GF" in local to everyone who participated..apparently they tried to ransom my corpmate to let him escape from the station unharmed just before I arrived in my Domi........ 2006.11.22 05:08:43 ] ***** > Fire [ 2006.11.22 05:08:43 ] ***** > good fight man [ 2006.11.22 05:08:47 ] ***** > all of you [ 2006.11.22 05:08:49 ] Fire Starter55 > thx [ 2006.11.22 05:08:50 ] ***** > that was a good fight [ 2006.11.22 05:09:01 ] Fire Starter55 > smart pooping in and out tll the domi got there [ 2006.11.22 05:09:03 ] *****> about that 5 mil ransom for me being able to leave [ 2006.11.22 05:09:09 ] ***** > I think I won't need to pay it now [ 2006.11.22 05:09:10 ] ***** > =D [ 2006.11.22 05:09:13 ] Fire Starter55 > lol [ 2006.11.22 05:12:01 ] Nexa Necis > still most corps run and dock. at least you fought and that is very admirable I convo Grimzag. He doesn't seem to think it's a big deal that he took our victory spoils. I refuse to take the items back because he was not sincere enough in the offer and no apology was made. He claims he doesn't care that I post stories and that I have no problem naming and shaming people for their unethical actions. He does have quite a few n00barific questions for me though.... [ 2006.11.22 05:10:49 ] GrimZag Sharkey > oo.. I have a few questions then.. if you don't mind [ 2006.11.22 05:11:00 ] Nexa Necis > ? [ 2006.11.22 05:11:13 ] GrimZag Sharkey > First, who do you kill without being concorded? [ 2006.11.22 05:11:31 ] Nexa Necis > huh? [ 2006.11.22 05:11:48 ] GrimZag Sharkey > well, how does one pirate and NOT get the shit blown out of them? [ 2006.11.22 05:12:11 ] Nexa Necis > war decs [ 2006.11.22 05:12:36 ] GrimZag Sharkey > oh.. right then. [ 2006.11.22 05:13:05 ] GrimZag Sharkey > cool, thanks. I want to try pirating sometime and was kinda lost on how you did that. Doesn't it cost ISK to dec war in empire? [ 2006.11.22 05:14:45 ] GrimZag Sharkey > so what exactly are the rules if a gang is in a fight? Am i not allowed to join in at all? [ 2006.11.22 05:14:52 ] GrimZag Sharkey > cuz if not, I'm going home lol [ 2006.11.22 05:14:56 ] GrimZag Sharkey > do you know? [ 2006.11.22 05:15:45 ] GrimZag Sharkey > ah, i got it. So i guess I can't even help him anyways. heh [ 2006.11.22 05:15:46 ] Nexa Necis > otherwise unless theyre flashing you cant touch em So it looks like he's a tard and has no clue on pvp game mechanics and got his Tempest Concorded. I thought it was a Raven but I reread some of his chat. So if you ever see this fucker around when you're fighting war targets or shooting rats or mining, watch out as I would consider him a liar, thief and scoundrel. Well as the days go by, we proceed to pop and pod the hell out of these guys. I personally had 18 ship/pod kills in 24 hours. I know my corpmates were quite busy as well. So far I think we lost a Vexor when one guy pulled out his Ferox and surprised my corpmates. They popped him though during that battle. So I'd say we are sitting at a 30 to 1 kill ratio so far. Once again all my war targets are docked so I head out to the belts for entertainment. I see some guy in an Osprey mining, and I flip his can. He come's back in a Bestower and grabs it right in front of me so I pop him. A few days later I get a threatening email from his CEO.... I sense bullshit. I get these kinds of emails all the time. Most people who are serious don't warn you before killing you. My guess that this Defy corp or whatever was nothing to be concerned over was correct... She eventually tried to hire me to kill someone she doesn't like, but instead our war against her corp will start once the new upgrade is done. Such is the penalty for empty threats bandied about carelessly. Intermission........sitting outside stations is quite fun at times. My bounty and negative sec status attracts n00bs like moths to a flame. They always lock and fire, thinking they will see their wallets soar from my whopping 13mil bounty, but instead they see their wallets soar with the paltry sum of insurance paid on a rookie ship..... Sentry guns FTW! Back to the wars..... So another day another docked war target. This is the guy who popped our Vexor and then we in turn popped his Ferox. I was told he had a Scorpion and he was brave enough to bring it out to play. Yay me! Of course I am jammed up the wazoo as his buddies come in to help beat on me.... The end result? One stabbed Scorpion, 1 fast frigate, and 1 slow frigate... A few minutes later, our friend Firestarter learns what happens when you get in range of a properly fitted Domi with sentry drones.... The wars continue and once again they try to blob me. 1 Vexor, 1 Destroyer, and 5 frigs vs. my tiny Ishkur.... I quickly dock and grab my Domi. You know that song Lady Madonna by The Beatles? The line from it, "See how they runnnnnnnn!" comes to mind when I undock....but they quickly gather their wits about them and engage full force..... I have to give them props for trying at least.. Needless to say it was a slaughter.... Fast forward a day or so and the wars rage on. I run into the Scorp pilot and offer him a 1 vs 1. He's not interested..... [ 2006.11.27 07:40:42 ] Nexa Necis > wanna 1 vs 1 in your scorp? [ 2006.11.27 07:40:47 ] AntonicusTheMad > unfortunatly it doesnt' snow here [ 2006.11.27 07:40:54 ] AntonicusTheMad > i already tried that [ 2006.11.27 07:40:59 ] AntonicusTheMad > your sentry drones hurt [ 2006.11.27 07:41:04 ] Nexa Necis > yeah you logged mid-fight [ 2006.11.27 07:41:10 ] AntonicusTheMad > i didn't log I honestly thought he logged, but he claims he didn't and I believe him. He claims logging is for pussies.... [ 2006.11.27 07:41:15 ] AntonicusTheMad > logging is for pussies [ 2006.11.27 07:41:21 ] AntonicusTheMad > that was a planned escape [ 2006.11.27 07:41:21 ] Nexa Necis > hmm looked like it [ 2006.11.27 07:41:30 ] Nexa Necis > you were definitely stabbed then hehe [ 2006.11.27 07:41:40 ] AntonicusTheMad > yeah... [ 2006.11.27 07:41:45 ] AntonicusTheMad > i made sure that ship could run [ 2006.11.27 07:41:54 ] Nexa Necis > and thats not for pussies? :P [ 2006.11.27 07:42:12 ] AntonicusTheMad > well its not the most honorable way to run [ 2006.11.27 07:42:29 ] AntonicusTheMad > well stabs are a game mod. [ 2006.11.27 07:42:43 ] AntonicusTheMad > logging is what you do when your scared and you panic [ 2006.11.27 07:42:54 ] AntonicusTheMad > if i mess up..it should cost me a ship [ 2006.11.27 07:43:03 ] Nexa Necis > just giving ya a hard time :) He was cool with things. I tried to explain to him about the war as it seems to be wearing on their corp quite a bit. He claims the CEO is his roommate and he's only staying in the corp so his roommate doesn't give him any shit. At least this guy is a bit more realistic that the rest I think...... [ 2006.11.27 07:43:20 ] Nexa Necis > just means next time ill have more points fitted for you :) [ 2006.11.27 07:43:20 ] AntonicusTheMad > i just like defending my self [ 2006.11.27 07:43:45 ] AntonicusTheMad > nice...then i'll just have to wait till your unlocked [ 2006.11.27 07:43:48 ] AntonicusTheMad > :) [ 2006.11.27 07:43:58 ] Nexa Necis > undocking now [ 2006.11.27 07:44:19 ] AntonicusTheMad > ahhh...i cant take you alone He knows he can't win, but he asks to duel my Ishkur in his Kestrel as long as I don't pod him. I agree, he pops in 3 seconds, and I keep my promise not to pod him and even let him take his gear which he picked up with his Ferox. Must be nice to have 100mil in ships only to tell people you are broke. :) Well that is all on this one for now. The wars will continue as long as we see fit. I will certainly update if anything happens with these guys. I hope to have new war targets and new stories to share with you all. Have a great day and don't sweat the downtime! :)