Revenge: A dish best served cold

It all started in October of 2006. I was still new to the war dec game, but was having lots of fun with it to say the least. One day in Tash I spotted a player in a small corp who I could tell was rich. He was flying his T2 combat ships, T2 haulers and even is Obelisk in and out of Tash. I figured he would make an excellent target along with the rest of his corp. His name is Johar'an Caesarri. His corp is Caesarri Industries and naturally he is the CEO. I start the war dec and they immediately proceed to get the hell outta Dodge. They run out to Parses from Tash Murkon Prime, a decent 16 jumps away. We popped a few of their newer miner players, but nothing substantial. Then one day I log in to see we have been war dec'd by a merc corp. Trinity Nova. I had to laugh because at the time we had maybe 6 people in my corp and one of the Trinity Nova guys was linking videos of their exploits to show me how hard core they were. It must be nice to go from big scary alliance wars to the ultimate deadly threat of fighting a 6 man corp made up of players no older than 6 months or so. Talk about hard core! One of the funny things was once the merc corp dec'd us, Johar'an and his friend Avera Mianti actually came to fight. They went and got their big, bad battleships and dusted them off just for us. Of course, they must've got weird used battleships because they only seemed to work when they had 10+ Trinity Nova guys sitting next to them. Without Trinity Nova online, they wouldn't start and were kept under wraps. The nice thing was he and his friends would smack talk me as I was camped by 10 people. Telling me how lame I was and how I was a piece of shit. You know the usual stuff. Then I would corner them in a station when the mercs weren't around I got the old, "You're a bully, you ain't shit, I just don't feel like fighting cause I would so own you!" etc, etc. I am not sure what he paid Trinity Nova for decing us for 2 weeks, but it was a waste. We didn't learn a thing. :) Fast forward 5 months and we find Caesarri Industries blossoming into a full fledged mining/missioning outfit with 76 people in it. Hell, their corp bio says it all, "Caesarri Industries is open for recruitment. Come dominate with us." Dominate. That's right. What's this!? Looks like they even ventured into scary low sec space! They even have their own POS. Two of them! Oh goody! Now being a CEO, he should know he has a responsibility to his corp to help them, to protect them and to make sure the corp thrives and prospers. Unforuntately he does none of that. Actually he's never done any of that. How do I know? Well all his corp members ended up filling me in on the gory details of how he has fleeced billions from unsuspecting new players. Yet for all his intelligence and cunning, he sucks at basic math. How do I know that? Let's analyze this as we go along. Just before the latest war started, I gave him the offer of paying me a quick 150 million ISK to avoid all conflict. What do I get in response? Nothing. Zilch. Zip. Goose egg. So of course, I start the war. The first day of the war starts with a bang. I head out to Parses and see there are about 8 CAES guys in local. However, I am in my Thorax and my corpmate Jami is in his Crow. Not exactly a deadly combo vs. 8 people, even if they are carebear-ish and not overly skilled at pvp. We were sitting outside Parses on the Parses SG. In warps Madgerkill in a Ferox. He hit's the gate and warps right over. We follow and proceed to pummel him. Now he probably would've won had he not tried to shoot the Crow. :) Instead he went down in a flash. Upon opening his can I was reminded why I enjoy war dec'ing his kind of ilk. These guys tend to have tons of cash cause they rarely lose ships since they never PvP. He had a bit of T2 and faction goodies for us. Unfortunately a lot of them poofed. 2007.03.12 01:22 Victim: madgerkill Alliance: NONE Corp: Caesarri Industries Destroyed: Ferox System: Parses Security: 0.5 Involved parties: Name: Nexa Necis (laid the final blow) Name: Jamikest Destroyed items: Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Dark Blood Reactive Plating Medium Shield Booster II Reactor Control Unit I E5 Prototype Energy Vampire Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II I love how supportive his corp was as they just let him die. I am sure a few of them were afk, but several of them were talking in local prior to us warping in and again after we had left. Avera was there and perhaps suspected a trap of sorts since she undocked her uber Raven but didn't bring it to the tussle. She promptly redocked it for the evening. A little later though we ran across one of their corp running a mission in his Raven. We caught him at a gate but he warped out as he hit structure which left us to kill one of his corpmates in a Thorax backing him up. I was still in my Thorax and my corpmate was in his Domi and we only had 2 points of scram between us. So we need another point of scrammage on him. This posed no problem as I quickly docked as he safespotted. I refit and added a 2 point scram in addition to my 20k scrammer. He regens his shields up and heads for the gate with us hot on his tail. He gets ahead of me somehow but his luck ran out as we crossed the next gate. I uncloaked 4k from him. :) His WCS worked against him as well. He probably should've been able to pop my Thorax with his Raven since I was almost 2 jumps ahead of my corpie in his Domi. So I had to sit and tank his Raven for a few minutes. The WCS killed his range and lock time. At that point I had to log for the evening. Later that night though, my corpie snagged one of them in a Hyperion fitted with T2 and faction gear. 2007.03.12 07:32 Victim: Unduru Alliance: NONE Corp: Caesarri Industries Destroyed: Hyperion System: Agil Security: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Ki An (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Cap Recharger II E500 Prototype Energy Vampire 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 5097 (Cargo) Dark Blood Energized Reactive Membrane E50 Prototype Energy Vampire Energized Magnetic Membrane II That guy lost about 400mil on that kill alone. We also snagged a miner in a Retriever who happen to have modulated strip miner 2's fitted and popped another guy in a Manticore. Ok, lets do a bit of math here. The original surrender offer was 150 million. At this point, they've got a retail loss of over 500 million. Not a good start for them if you ask me. Keep in mind too the loss of income because they ain't mining or missioning. The next day wasn't their day either. They lost 2 more battleships. One of them was nice enough to go afk next to his wreck in his pod for me. Now that I see they refuse to bargain and are now pretty much holed up in a station or at their POS's in Upt, I decide to bring a bit of help in. I called on my friends in Final Vendetta to help dismantle the POS's. The Final Vendetta guys are a class act. Friendly, affordable, and hard workers as well. They're even recruiting at the moment. Take a moment to view them in action. If you hire them, be sure to tell them I sent ya. You will get a great deal. :) The war continues as does their smack talk. I was camping the Raven pilot again, only this time in my Myrmidon. I had to go AFK and TCB. I get back to see them taunting me. There's three of them in the station and just lil ol me all by my lonesome. I see Hirez has his Raven, I am betting he is Maxistabbed(tm) along with Redmage in his Rupture and Kuzzi who was logging in and out for some reason. I undock and lock the Rupture. The Rupture lasts as long as an ice cube on the ground in the Sahara. He was nice enough to stick around long enough for me to pod him as well. Just as he pops the other guy undocks/redocks in a cruiser of some sort. Now it's time to focus on the Raven since it's 1 vs 1 and the other guy is too afraid to undock. Just as he gets into structure he warps away! 3 WCS FTL!!!!!! Oh yeah, I wanna play alright. Hard to play long with those who fit more WCS than missile launchers though. The next few days finds us hanging with the Final Vendetta guys. As I said, they are a nice bunch of guys. I had fun bullshitting with them on voice comms and in chat. As they were busy restricting CAES members from coming and going into Upt and putting the first POS into reinforced mode, me and my guys were busy mowing down CAES at every turn. One night I spy one mining in Parses. So I jump in and land right on top of him and he promptly warps away. At this point, I need a ship with 10 mid slots cause these guys are flying all stabs in lows in everything they fly it seems. I bookmark the can and warp to a safe spot. There are 2 CAES in the system. Into the belt warps a Thorax and a Moa. I warp in to engage. Of course as soon as they saw things weren't going their way, the Moa warped out into structure, and the Thorax did the same a moment later. Now there are 3 of them in the system and I am by myself again. They refused to engage though and permadocked for the evening. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!INTERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want to bore you too much with CAES. :) Just prior to all of this we got war dec'd again by Privateers. I still don't get the reasoning behind it, but ok. This time around we did a bit better. Then one night when there were no war targets to be had I ventured into low sec to belt hunt. As usual all the systems were empty or everyone was docked. On the way back to Tash I see some guy mining Kernite in Paye. I head to the belt and swap the can. I wait for a few minutes and he leaves. I safespot next to the belt. He comes back in a Raven. Then I decide to try something and exploit this guys probable lack of PvP experience while he is on tilt from having his ore ganked. I sit safespotted for a few more minutes and warp into the belt just as I got about 30 seconds left on my timer. The Raven isn't there!? WTF! All of a sudden, he appears out of thin air and locks me and fires......after the timer was up! Concord was nice enough to come help me dispatch the fool. Concord got my back! Let's see what Santa brought for big daddy shall we? Hmmmm..... He was a good sport about it though. He even sent me the killmail! 2007.03.06 05:02 Victim: Stiffee Alliance: NONE Corp: The Hellpit Group Destroyed: Raven System: Paye Security: 0.6 Involved parties: Name: CONCORD Police Commander / CONCORD (laid the final blow) Name: Nexa Necis Security: -0.1 Alliance: NONE Corp: The Really Awesome Players Ship: Thorax Weapon: Thorax Destroyed items: Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Siege Missile Launcher II Microcell Nanite Adaptive Membrane I Improved Cloaking Device II Not a bad score though considering how easy it all was. There are a lot of people who make silly mistakes it seems. Costly mistakes at that. Though before I tell you about another, I was docking in Tash and see a war target undock in a pod. Talk about bad timing. One of my guys has the fortune to constantly run into rich people who seem to suck at fighting. Miko somehow gets a Raven to engage his Domi.... The guy loses miserably but is willing to pay a hefty ransom. He runs into a guy flying an Raven. He ransoms the guy for a cool 95 million. We decide to war dec his corp, The Intergalactic Mining Federation as these guys all fly nicely fitted ships and have paid him several very high ransoms already. The war doesn't last too long though since none of them bothered to log on and haven't logged on much since. I did manage to catch one on autopilot in his Drake. Afterwards, he quits the corp in disgust........ Speaking of dumb things to do, how about this guy, Rex Estebar. Miko takes 100k ore from his corps can and in he flies in his Navy Issue Apoc filled to the brim with T2 and faction goodies. In warps a Geddon and Drake to help him out. 3 vs 1 in a battle to the death. He lost quite a bit on this one........ Destroyed items: Corpum A-Type Energized Magnetic Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Magnetic Membrane Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I Valkyrie I (Drone Bay) Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Large Armor Repairer II Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Ouch! Even though they managed to pop Miko's Domi, Rex was kind enough to have a rig not being used in his cargo that fetched a cool 40mil, plus a few other goodies. Miko made plenty of cash on that fight even though he lost the Domi. It gets even better though! Just the other night Rex offers a 1 vs 1 to Miko. [ 2007.03.24 03:55:19 ] Mikojo > rex wants a rematch [ 2007.03.24 03:55:22 ] Mikojo > the navy apoc guy [ 2007.03.24 03:56:53 ] Nexa Necis > heh let him take your can not vice versa [ 2007.03.24 03:56:59 ] Nexa Necis > i wouldnt trust that fucker [ 2007.03.24 03:57:50 ] Mikojo > thats what I'm doing [ 2007.03.24 04:01:21 ] Mikojo > and fraps ready heh [ 2007.03.24 04:03:32 ] Mikojo > annnnd he shoots my can [ 2007.03.24 04:03:35 ] Mikojo > so he gets concorded [ 2007.03.24 04:04:17 ] Nexa Necis > you serious? [ 2007.03.24 04:05:55 ] Mikojo > yep [ 2007.03.24 04:06:09 ] Mikojo > 2x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I 1x Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb [ 2007.03.24 04:06:23 ] Nexa Necis > please tell me you screenshotted it [ 2007.03.24 04:06:25 ] Nexa Necis > please [ 2007.03.24 04:06:28 ] Nexa Necis > please [ 2007.03.24 04:06:40 ] Mikojo > fraps'd So he's down a regular Apoc with more T2 and faction gear! But wait, there's more! A while later he asked for another rematch. 2007.03.24 05:07 Victim: Rex Estebar Alliance: NONE Corp: The Imperial Assassins Destroyed: Apocalypse System: Tash-Murkon Prime Security: 0.8 Involved parties: Name: Mikojo (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 100MN Afterburner I Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Large Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I Thermic Plating I Infiltrator I (Drone Bay) So this guy is now down a Navy Issued Apoc, and 2 regular Apocs, plus millions in mods all over 100k worth of ore. Carebears really do suck at math. Ok, we're almost back to the CAES crew's imminent destruction. Though I have to update those of you who read the last story I wrote about that Russian pharmer corp. If you look at my last story you will see they have found my story and posted in the comments section. I laugh that they get all pissy because I kill them in Eve yet they are newbs, but he invites me to play IL Sturmovic 2 because in that game I would be the newb and he can have his just desserts. Too bad I play BF2 and not IL2. :) Also it's too bad I am fitting enough points to scram these bastards and make tons of cash off of them. I snagged an Itty 5 headed to Jita... I find me some nice goodies inside......and decide to offer him some friendly advice..... Even Russian carebears have failed math. I asked them for 150 million as well. They have lost a lot more than that. I really laughed when I found a new member of theirs flying missions in his Drake. He was fully stabbed up. He was new to the game but they had trained him to fit 4 WCS while flying from system to system, then to dock, refit for the mission, and reverse the process to get back to the agent. So I go and fit a full rack of 20km scrammers to compensate. Quite a rich newb...... Destroyed items: 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I I laughed when I looked at his employment history. He had joined their corp just a few hours earlier and he immediately takes a 100+ million loss. They really surprised me though. They scored a few kills against us. Apparently they had a few of the people who originally defected from their corp come back for vengeance. They ganked a BC of ours and had a nice 6 vs 3. They had a distinct advantage having a Raven, Domi, Harbinger, Drake, Hurricane and a Caracal vs a Domi, Omen and a Ishkur. We went out for revenge today and popped one of their Drakes. The memory of Apollo Creed has not died folks. We will carry on the war in his honor. On a side note, I encourage people to harass macro miners as much as possible and kill their Caracal/Drake/Raven whenver possible.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!END OF INTERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok back to the CAES guys. I was in Upt and they were trying to be sneaky or something. They were going on and on in local trying to pass off some bogus intel for some odd reason as if anyone would believe them. At this point it's way too late. The POS sieging has begun! The sad part is during this whole time Johar'an went on a little vacation. He was gone most of the time we beat down his corp and put his POS's into reinforced mode. I found it interesting that his corp really didn't seem to like the guy much. Their favorite question to me was the same question that is favored by every carebear out there, "Why?!?" Here's my response. [ 2007.03.16 15:53:00 ] Nexa Necis > ask joharn [ 2007.03.16 15:53:09 ] RedMage > he's a dick. [ 2007.03.16 15:53:18 ] RedMage > never online, never responds to email. [ 2007.03.16 15:53:25 ] Nexa Necis > yeah i beleive it [ 2007.03.16 15:53:26 ] RedMage > you know as well as i he just milks the noob miners It's starting to become apparent. This guy Johar'an basically recruits a shitload of new miners and feeds them lies. He uses them for his own gain. He care's nothing of the welfare of his corp, he only cares about making ISK off of them according to his corpmates. [ 2007.03.16 16:19:26 ] RedMage > yea, i said it before. [ 2007.03.16 16:19:29 ] RedMage > Joh is a dick. [ 2007.03.16 16:19:42 ] RedMage > the local corps wanted to make an aliance, and he's all about being solo. [ 2007.03.16 16:19:50 ] RedMage > can't be solo w/ out a combat arm. retard. [ 2007.03.16 17:12:48 ] Nexa Necis > what did joharan say when our war started? [ 2007.03.16 17:13:33 ] RedMage > be careful [ 2007.03.16 17:13:36 ] RedMage > hahaha [ 2007.03.16 17:14:46 ] Nexa Necis > thats helpful [ 2007.03.16 17:14:48 ] Nexa Necis > :) [ 2007.03.16 17:14:55 ] RedMage > tell me about it. [ 2007.03.16 17:15:22 ] Nexa Necis > i was hoping he would bring out his t2 ships but i guess not [ 2007.03.16 17:16:49 ] RedMage > no, i think he's a collector. [ 2007.03.16 17:17:00 ] Nexa Necis > ah all show and no go [ 2007.03.16 17:17:35 ] RedMage > i guess it pays to be incompatent w/ corp managment if you only care about those that just brining you ore I keep getting convoed by his disgruntled employees... [ 2007.03.17 00:48:37 ] madgerkill > man i ant going back thear [ 2007.03.17 00:48:50 ] madgerkill > i get poped in seconds [ 2007.03.17 00:55:25 ] Nexa Necis > i am back for a moment. convo me please if you wish to negotiate [ 2007.03.17 01:05:03 ] madgerkill > well we are trying to over throw the guy that put ous in this mess atm [ 2007.03.17 01:06:41 ] madgerkill > seeings he made his isk and hase baild on ous shut down all are roles [ 2007.03.17 01:11:08 ] madgerkill > i dont under stand what the problem is in the first place and what do you kned to solve this problem we are having ? [ 2007.03.17 01:13:44 ] madgerkill > dosent matter to me if you dont want to talk about it ill take my billion and let you have this place i could give a fuck one way or the other [ 2007.03.17 01:20:54 ] madgerkill > whats the prob [ 2007.03.17 01:21:32 ] madgerkill > if i can 86 the boss will that make you happy ? [ 2007.03.17 01:21:38 ] Nexa Necis > not really [ 2007.03.17 01:21:49 ] Nexa Necis > im gonna war dec every corp he makes [ 2007.03.17 01:22:04 ] Nexa Necis > and any corp he joins will find out the shit he pulled on all the newbie miners hes been fleecing for ages [ 2007.03.17 01:22:50 ] madgerkill > well im one of them minners im not verry happy eathor you can have this shit hole [ 2007.03.17 01:22:54 ] Nexa Necis > his name will be shit and no one will touch him cept to pod him [ 2007.03.17 01:24:17 ] madgerkill > no one hase roles to pay you and im not going into my pocket to save his ass [ 2007.03.17 01:24:50 ] madgerkill > so i guess our convo is over The offers keep coming in though for us to cease and desist. [ 2007.03.17 00:56:45 ] Ambrosious > Its apparent that our CEO has dropped the ball on this matter [ 2007.03.17 00:57:07 ] Ambrosious > what aould it take for you to stop the attack? [ 2007.03.17 00:57:29 ] Nexa Necis > correct, i emailed at the start of the war requesting a small surrender fee. he never responded to any of my mails [ 2007.03.17 00:57:46 ] Ambrosious > thats why we know he dropped the ball [ 2007.03.17 00:58:13 ] Ambrosious > were looking to take overthe CEOship [ 2007.03.17 00:58:24 ] Nexa Necis > well its for you to offer, cause at this point, its not about money, its about pure damage [ 2007.03.17 00:58:30 ] Nexa Necis > pure loss [ 2007.03.17 01:00:21 ] Ambrosious > we are willing to offer you 250mill to stop all of this and allow us to change our leadership [ 2007.03.17 01:01:18 ] Nexa Necis > sorry not even close. we will make more taking down the pos and looting it Apparently they think we might let them leave unscathed..... [ 2007.03.17 01:09:48 ] Ambrosious > well then I guerss your answer is no [ 2007.03.17 01:10:26 ] Ambrosious > then as a last request I ask that you allow safe apssage for my corpmates in the system to leave and fly safelly out [ 2007.03.17 01:10:34 ] Nexa Necis > negative sorry [ 2007.03.17 01:10:52 ] billtcips mimatar > how much for rights of passage [ 2007.03.17 01:11:12 ] Nexa Necis > there is none Then I get one of the oddest offers ever..... [ 2007.03.17 01:15:05 ] billtcips mimatar > and you know what i probably got like 200 mil but its all tied up in shit like stocks yeah i feel dumb [ 2007.03.17 01:15:14 ] billtcips mimatar > and stuff for mining [ 2007.03.17 01:15:22 ] billtcips mimatar > would you like to take up mining? [ 2007.03.17 01:15:30 ] billtcips mimatar > i can offer you a fair bit that away [ 2007.03.17 01:15:43 ] Nexa Necis > no. mining is the devils work He will teach me how to mine in exchange for not blowing up billions of ISK worth of stuff. Yeah! What kind of madman would turn that down! Me baby, me! Then they start to get ugly. They had quite a few smack talking idiots on that corp.... [ 2007.03.17 05:08:20 ] Muyin > hirez also posted some converstion between you and your corp, I've heard some are against this war, is that right? [ 2007.03.17 05:08:38 ] Nexa Necis > not that ive seen. feel free to forward it to me [ 2007.03.17 05:10:48 ] Nexa Necis > though i think he misread it cause we dont discuss corp stuff like that in local [ 2007.03.17 05:10:58 ] Muyin > well probably it's in a gang chat, can't find it. then I assume it doesnt exist [ 2007.03.17 05:13:49 ] Muyin > if you want to hurt joh, try to hurt the right person. the miners know nothing. that's all I want to say. [ 2007.03.17 05:14:23 ] Nexa Necis > np you guys can help me hurt him. let me take all his stuff [ 2007.03.17 05:15:21 ] madgerkill > lol has enny boddy got in your way yet ? [ 2007.03.17 05:15:43 ] Nexa Necis > yeah the POS did :) [ 2007.03.17 05:15:46 ] Muyin > we can't stop you anyway [ 2007.03.17 05:16:38 ] Hirez Troll > define 'his stuff' [ 2007.03.17 05:16:55 ] Nexa Necis > anything thats his [ 2007.03.17 05:17:06 ] Hirez Troll > his isk and ships ? or the corp bankroll and items ? [ 2007.03.17 05:17:25 ] Nexa Necis > all of the above preferably [ 2007.03.17 05:17:32 ] madgerkill > all the stuff no one can git to He's saying that there is dissension in my corp for warring them. My guys were having a blast killing them daily. Unlike Johar'an, I keep my corpmates up to date on what's going on. My guys know I will back them up and do my best to help them whenever I can. For them to say crap like my corp hates me for dec'ing them is plain retarded. After a bit, they decide to try to overthrow Johar'an. [ 2007.03.17 23:00:02 ] *** *** > Well. Unless Johar comes back within 19 hours and screws it all up. Yeah Kreo is taking over, if nothing else, temporarily. [ 2007.03.17 23:00:19 ] *** *** > I have no idea what the corp coffers look like. For all we know, Johar took them all and left us high and dry. [ 2007.03.17 23:00:29 ] *** *** > Needless to say, we are all not very happy with him right now. [ 2007.03.17 23:00:42 ] *** *** > Leaving us to fend for ourselves, not a one of us having director skills, only him and his alts. [ 2007.03.17 23:00:51 ] *** *** > And no muzzle for Nav Nav who's just making things worse. [ 2007.03.17 23:01:05 ] *** *** > Kreo is letting me do all the talking and deal making, (if there is one) This player obviously asked to remain anonymous. Although you can see by the arrangement of asterisks who this person might be. :) They inform me they also fell victim to Johar'an's pulling the wool over their eyes.... [ 2007.03.17 23:39:40 ] Nexa Necis > he gave them no advice [ 2007.03.17 23:40:12 ] Nexa Necis > doenst look like much has changed [ 2007.03.17 23:41:01 ] *** *** > Well he did post a little bit of advice in corp e-mails but nothing sound. Nothing that anyone has really done or listened to. [ 2007.03.17 23:41:23 ] *** *** > Damn I hate to say it but the more you talk, the more my desire to screw him like he's been screwing us is setting in. [ 2007.03.17 23:41:34 ] *** *** > I mean it took me a while to realize what he does. [ 2007.03.17 23:41:43 ] Nexa Necis > well, no one would fault you and i dont think anyone would say you fucked him over [ 2007.03.17 23:42:05 ] *** *** > Him and his 1 or 2 real life friends. He wanted a POS for them. He recruits all these damn noobies, sends them out mining and pays them chump change. [ 2007.03.17 23:42:12 ] Nexa Necis > yep [ 2007.03.17 23:42:40 ] *** *** > i mean I helped clear 4 or 5 belts after several hours and got 4 mill? 4 freakin mill? needless to say, I didn't do any more mining opts for him. [ 2007.03.17 23:42:55 ] *** *** > he was offering 400k per block of dark glitter ice when it was going for what? 1.3 mill on the market? He takes advantage of new players spinning a tale of riches and excitement when all he delivers is hours of mining in low sec so his coffers runeth over with the hard work of the innocent newbie miners. Sure you could say we're pricks because we're killing said newbie miners, but at least with us, they know what to expect. We're not leading them down the primrose path to the poorhouse. It becomes obvious why no one is working together in the corp to help each other. Everyone is spread out doing their own thing because they are not finding what they really need or getting what they should get from a large corp based in low and high sec. They are down their mining/research POS. It has gone kaboom. BPO's for everyone! Muahaha! Johar'an might be getting a bit annoyed now. He starts threatening the Final Vendetta guys, even while he's on the ropes. [ 2007.03.18 04:34:05 ] Johar'an Caesarri > not sure how much you are getting paid for this but i hope it will cover the cost of your dread [ 2007.03.18 04:34:18 ] Uhmari > We do this souly for pvp. [ 2007.03.18 04:34:34 ] Uhmari > What we charge covers losess, and ammo needs. That was/is the only thing I heard from him this whole war. I asked one of his mates if he said anything to the corp after coming back from his AWOL status to find one POS down and the other in reinforced mode... [ 2007.03.18 19:12:32 ] Nexa Necis > what did johar say? anything? [ 2007.03.18 19:12:52 ] madgerkill > he never sead a thing [ 2007.03.18 19:13:55 ] madgerkill > told him pritty convenit leave a bunch of noobs to defend your shit 0 isk out of his pockit [ 2007.03.18 19:14:32 ] Nexa Necis > and he never replied? [ 2007.03.18 19:14:51 ] madgerkill > nope [ 2007.03.18 19:17:44 ] madgerkill > his pincel is fucked up his decison making skills are worthless and he couldent organize his sock drower [ 2007.03.18 19:18:29 ] madgerkill > he was like we can take thim last night [ 2007.03.18 19:18:47 ] madgerkill > so i sent him a few kill mails and told him he was on drugs [ 2007.03.18 19:19:05 ] Nexa Necis > hehe [ 2007.03.18 19:19:58 ] madgerkill > every one els in the corp startid kissing his ass wen he loged on [ 2007.03.18 19:20:19 ] Nexa Necis > i noticed [ 2007.03.18 19:20:20 ] madgerkill > the day before they had nothing nice to say to him [ 2007.03.18 19:20:23 ] Nexa Necis > yep [ 2007.03.18 19:21:04 ] madgerkill > im not that kind of guy [ 2007.03.18 19:21:27 ] Nexa Necis > i see that :) He's really looking out for his guys, ain't he? I can understand why some of them are mad, but I don't get why they still talk shit and make up blatant lies.... [ 2007.03.19 05:55:01 ] Nexa Necis > wanna 1 vs 1, raven vs myrm? [ 2007.03.19 05:55:54 ] Hirez Troll > ah [ 2007.03.19 05:56:57 ] Hirez Troll > 1vs1 ? - thanx but no - word on the street is TRAPS doesn't honor 1vs1 [ 2007.03.19 05:57:04 ] Nexa Necis > uh huh [ 2007.03.19 05:57:07 ] Nexa Necis > show proof [ 2007.03.19 05:57:23 ] Hirez Troll > i have seen a local chat copy and the kill posting to confirm that People like this crack me up. All talk, no action, cep't from their mouths. I have to say I really enjoyed sticking it to these guys. Most of them deserved it. I especially liked watching them huddle inside the POS as it slowly relented to the endless barrage of missles, lasers and projectiles hurled at it. As we were dropping the POS, players started fleeing the system right into our gate camp. They took a severe beating from us and our friends in F-V. A lot of them have quit the corp so far. At this point they have lost a lot. 64 losses of ships/pods. 2 medium POS with all the trimmings. Let's recall again what I asked for as a surrender fee. 150 million. In ships/mods/pods/insurance alone they have lost over a billion. Then you take the POS's into account and you're talking another couple of billion, plus the crap left inside them, plus they can't mine or mission worth a damn because we're chasing em down like crazy. I even found one guy last night and popped his Retriever with 2 modulated strip miner 2's. Another 100 million down the tubes. Then I found another guy in his Retriever with plain T1 strip miners. He wasn't pleased about getting popped. He was so unpleased he undocked and killed one of my guys ruining our perfect kill record on them. My guy thought he could solo a Brutix in his Rupture. He was wrong, but his heart was in the right place. I offered him a 1 vs 1. Myrm vs Brutix. He accepted on the condition that I leave him alone a while, and I not loot his gear or salvage his wreck. I agreed. Things weren't going his way tonight. I had to give the guy props because he showed more guts than the rest of his corp for the most part. No stabs, no retarded smack talk. Though I did giggle a bit when he begged for mercy. Though I highly doubt he would've shown me any. He certainly didn't show my corpmate in the Rupture any mercy. There was a small misunderstanding about podding but I apologized for not being clear and paid him enough to cover any insurance. He didn't have implants because they would've all been blown up when I podded him once his Retriever popped. Still, I left the system as promised carrying none of his loot, nor salvaging his wreck. Yes, we here at TRAPS do honor our word. Too bad Johar'an doesn't keep his. I am being told by his corpmates that he is not buying back the shares he sold them at the agreed upon price. So people are losing money. He is once again off from his computer and considered AWOL by his corp. These are the kind of guys you need to beware of. The kinds who are wolves in sheep's clothing. The ones who leave their friends in a time of need. The ones who prey on the innocent when they least expect it. At least when we attack them, they're given fair warning. To me, this guy is a corp scammer and a ripoff artist. A shyster. A flim flammer and con artist. A grifter. A cheat. A scoundrel. You get my drift.