Clearing up a few Misconceptions

It sounds more like they figured you would hide behind friends in CVA and figured you wouldn't venture far beyond those boundaries.

At least that's the vibe I got from the story.

Is ander so short on material that hes letting people post whines about war decs?

owned lol

I hope the author doesn´t take direct offence to this comment, personally this sounds a bit whiny instead of Pirate´y.. Bring on the Yarr :)

I'm not in any official position in Leela's Lama's, just love the guys i play with, and feel that this is slander.
I've been with Lama's for 2 months now, but have known these guys for over 1yr in-game.
First of all, as far as i know, my character is the only 2003 character within this corp, and he doesn't have the SP that comes with that age. As for me, i've been playing for 1.5 yrs. I don't know where the 2003 players only thing came, but I feel some proof is needed, except for the "i said so" thing.

Your second missconception is that piracy, is not an SP thing. You want to pirate, go for it, you don't need a multi-billion isk wallet to support losses, start with the t1 ships and go with t2 only when you think you can handle them.

T2 is not a requisite to be successfull in PVP. Knowing what you want from the ship, and knowing the capabilities of the ship you fly and fight, are.

Now, about that fight. I wasn't in Lama's when it happened, so i started checking the KB - i remembered aevis mentioning to me 2 ops where they went in 0.0 in gang and got slaughtered, so i started looking for it.
I think this is it : http://www.arho-eve.com/LamaKB/?a=kill_related&kll_id=64
Though some things are weird, like you say "we" and i don't see your name or your corp's name on any of those kills, or the fact that they had 12 guys - not 13 but small mistake, and that they had 3 bs, 1 recon, 3 bc's, 1 navy augoror, but let's say 6 bs's instead of 3 because i have no ideea what the 3 other guys were flying, to your 9 bs, 3 commands - one of them damnation with probably running armor gang links, 1 hac, 3 recons - 2 of them rapiers to keep them from mwd-ing back to the gate, 3 bc's, 1 stealth bomber - half a cruise-raven here, and 3 ceptors.
Well, that's twice the numbers just in a camp, and you forgot to mention the fact that CVA side actually did lose a ship - BS, so they DID decide to fight, weren't ganked, and well, are bullies for managing to kill only 1.

I'm sure that browsing our KB will provide you with more ammo - check my losses and see how i lost a crusader to a covetor that wasn't scrambling or webbing, so i'll wait for the next installment of the what is to become a lasting series. :)

I do believe that was the fight where our scout , Dudu , told us that there are more ships than he could count , on his overview ... and we did the only logical thing there was ...

We assumed he couldn't count past 10 :D

@ Hawkcrest: i'll search the forums to see if we have any of the remaining chat logs stored up somewhere , because i don't remember you being so big and tough after you lost http://www.arho-eve.com/LamaKB/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=821 your , as you named it , bpo collection .

Aaand here are the logs :

Hawkcrest > greets
Marux Darke > HI Hawkcrest
Hawkcrest > Marux, we appreciate that you fellas operate as pirates, and understand the concept of what your doing
Hawkcrest > however
Hawkcrest > the other day you fellas struck a possibly killer blow to our unit in destroying and capturing our blueprint collection
Hawkcrest > Im not asking for anything back war is war thats the way the game is played
Hawkcrest > but Im asking you fellas to call off this war as you have gotten far more then you asked for and quite simply its just going to drive these guys away from the game
Marux Darke > Well, we didn't actually get anything from your BPO collection
Hawkcrest > according to the list of destroyed items you still gained the scorpion and Armageddon BPO's
Hawkcrest > as well as many other BPO's and Copies
Marux Darke > Really? I better speak to my guys - I can't trust anyone these days.
Marux Darke > I tell you what
Hawkcrest > that was essentially the work of the entire team over 5-6 months
Marux Darke > We will call off the war if you will make a token donation of 50 mills. You understand this is simply a token gesture and not what we would normally do in these circumstances, but your guys have been good and not been rude or anything.
Hawkcrest > Quite honestly Marux even if I wanted to I couldnt give it to you because quite simply we dont have it at this point....We were in the process of pulling out of Momentum due to losses from the BOB War and you caught us in transition
Hawkcrest > actually 1 sec
Hurok > hello
Marux Darke > Hurok - Hawkcrest is just considering an offer of a token settlement
Hurok > sounds good
Marux Darke > I made this offer because they have been good fun and honourable guys
Hawkcrest > Here is my predicament at this point, If I give into your demands Ill have every pirate from here to eternity coming trying to do the same thing, so I cannot. You fellas have simply decimated our production base so the options are quite simply one of
Hawkcrest > Hunamity, my guys are considering leaving the game as we play other games, we dont wish to and they may be willing to remain and rebuild but they cant do that while you fellas are continuing your war.
Hawkcrest > You have cost us over half of the corp net worth in assets
Marux Darke > Hawk, nobody knows we are at war with you and nobody will know of any settlement you choose to make
Hawkcrest > Call it self respect Marux
Marux Darke > The offer of a token settlement is simply a token and as I said, not what we would normally do
Hawkcrest > What it is Marux is a removal of my self respect, and thats not somthing I can allow
Hawkcrest > You have made your money and then some
Hawkcrest > leve us a little dignity

As you can see you had quite a cheap way out of the war , yet you refused to take it.

Also , if you check our killboard and check in game character names you will see that we really are not '03 players, we just enjoy what we're doing.

On another notice , if you feel like you've been mistreated in the past comment feel free to drop us a wardec , and i'm sure you'll get the chance to clear your name in honourable battle :)

P.S. I'm not sure your corp members knew about that little chat we had , but i'm sure they'll be interested to find out that your self respect is above the corp and it's members ... wink wink ;)

P.P.S. We're Lamas ffs .. not llamas and certainly not lammas ... wiki it !

Aevis, did you just post a convo of me being *reasonable* with someone?

As Hawk would say "Oh the hunamity!"

Ah i recall that little trip into 0.0.
Twas funny

dammit will ander just delete this post and all the comments. This aint the eve forums its a place for cool stories and lots of yarr and this post has neither

Yes =)
Write something better if you want other content posted.

Now for the more serious explenation.
We allow most content to be posted, corporation ads, ingame content etc. This is a community website. I dont really censor what people write unless it's too short or just not eve related.

I remember Lamas from my time in ENP at empire. We have with them the best empire war I have ever seen. Polite in local, and they engaged even been outnumbered like 3:1 (this probably explain the incident that op comment at R3 system). We were a noob/industrial corp, but with some suicide and blood thirsty pilots :) They handed our asses back, but we were all happy with the fights.

Respect Lamas o7